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9B.2 *-da* and *-ze*: "too", "even", and "as for…"

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Chapter 8 introduced -da and -ze as "too" tags: an enclitic is a tiny word that cannot stand alone and leans on the end of the word before it, like the 's in "it's". -da is from Turkish and -ze from Kurdish, and the two do almost exactly the same job. They actually do two jobs, and the second one shows up in every story.

Job 1: "too, also, even." The tag goes on the word it adds:

AssyrianEnglishfrom
at-da khush-tammayou go over there tooA 1:31
kenyane-ze k-avivalunthey used to have cattle tooB 2:10
men-diyyi-da bush-shapirenathey are more beautiful even than meA 39:14
aha-ze betlayelehe goes to sleep tooA 39:3

Job 2: "and as for X…" On the first word of a sentence, the tag tells the listener we're switching to someone else now. English does this with "and", "but" or "meanwhile", or with stress:

AssyrianEnglishfrom
at tuy tama, ana-da kalen depnakhyou sit there, and I'll stand beside youA 39:19
gani surevenva, babi-da savevaI myself was young, and my father was oldB 2:19
yemmu-da mara: bezdayen la amsetbut his mother says, "I'm afraid you won't be able to"A 35:1

Speaking tip: ana-da "me too" and at-da "you too" cover a lot of conversation. To contrast two people ("you do this, I'll do that"), put -da on the second one.

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Both… and; neither… nor. Put the tag on each of two words. With a negative verb it means "neither… nor":

AssyrianEnglishfrom
zuyze-da gane-da akhnan le-bayyakhwe want neither their money nor themA 6:15
en-la, ka-diyyakh-ze p-katel, zaya-ze p-shakelleif not, he will both kill you and take the foalA 38:14
kha-akhcha mendi ana len merta, len-da khzita nuyneI have not said such a thing. Nor have I seen fishA 36:14

ham-da joins two names, like English "and". Said twice it means "both … and":

AssyrianEnglishfrom
pekka ham-da akubra gverrethe frog and the mouse got marriedA 52:4
ham-da ganu bakhtu u-ham-da o-brunu bekhkhayeva gu-de chullukhtaboth he and his wife, and also his son, lived in that hutA 54:1

On a whole sentence it means "moreover":

AssyrianEnglishfrom
akhnan gvirekh. kha-dana-da bruna etlanwe are married. Moreover, we have a sonA 36:10

Little steps forward:

AssyrianEnglishfrom
kharta khachcha-da kamta kheshlethen he went a little further onA 1:11

"Here they are!" On anne "these", the tag presents something:

AssyrianEnglishfrom
anne-da, shkul khulhere they are. Take and eatA 36:9

"Even though." On a verb, the tag can concede a point. This is the "although" of section "If", in full:

AssyrianEnglishfrom
adi talki-da, at khu-li-yatteteven if they get lost now, you would indeed not knowA 39:32
shula leva yave, kulle-ze keryanevathey did not give them work, although they were all educatedA 41:15

la-da: "and if not". After an offer it means "otherwise":

AssyrianEnglishfrom
bayyitun, bayyitun. la-da, ana b-shoken t-azenif you want it, fine. If not, I'll leave everything and goA 55:7

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